1 00:00:00,260 --> 00:00:12,070 [Music] 2 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:14,360 at Yale University I'm working on some 3 00:00:17,510 --> 00:00:15,930 exoplanet atmospheric characterization 4 00:00:20,300 --> 00:00:17,520 and this talk I feel will be a little 5 00:00:21,890 --> 00:00:20,310 bit broad in scope because I'm mainly 6 00:00:25,610 --> 00:00:21,900 interested in looking at planet 7 00:00:28,370 --> 00:00:25,620 atmosphere as a very global scale and so 8 00:00:29,450 --> 00:00:28,380 the the first topic question I want to 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:29,460 talk about is what do we know about 10 00:00:33,170 --> 00:00:30,810 exoplanet atmospheres from through 11 00:00:35,029 --> 00:00:33,180 cometary so the reason I point out 12 00:00:37,510 --> 00:00:35,039 photometry in general is that there are 13 00:00:40,910 --> 00:00:37,520 two main ways to observe an atmosphere 14 00:00:42,590 --> 00:00:40,920 we had a great introduction on you know 15 00:00:44,540 --> 00:00:42,600 transits and eclipses and phase curves 16 00:00:47,300 --> 00:00:44,550 and so those I'm gonna be brief here but 17 00:00:49,010 --> 00:00:47,310 so one way that you can you can try to 18 00:00:52,069 --> 00:00:49,020 learn something about an atmosphere is 19 00:00:57,049 --> 00:00:52,079 if you have a transit so this what's 20 00:00:58,460 --> 00:00:57,059 going on that's oh here we go okay so if 21 00:01:00,139 --> 00:00:58,470 you have if you're observing a planetary 22 00:01:01,670 --> 00:01:00,149 transit this red ring is supposed to be 23 00:01:04,459 --> 00:01:01,680 like the atmosphere it's a little 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:04,469 exaggerated but it could not be and if 25 00:01:07,310 --> 00:01:06,090 you get absorption through that 26 00:01:09,170 --> 00:01:07,320 atmosphere that's a transmission 27 00:01:10,820 --> 00:01:09,180 spectrum you can learn possibly learn 28 00:01:13,580 --> 00:01:10,830 something about the composition of that 29 00:01:15,110 --> 00:01:13,590 atmosphere and then and then if you're 30 00:01:16,340 --> 00:01:15,120 if you're able to observe the planet 31 00:01:17,930 --> 00:01:16,350 through its whole orbit you can see 32 00:01:20,750 --> 00:01:17,940 different phases of the planet like the 33 00:01:22,850 --> 00:01:20,760 moon's phases and the clips will show 34 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:22,860 you the full phase of the planet the 35 00:01:26,630 --> 00:01:24,930 dayside the side facing the star and 36 00:01:28,130 --> 00:01:26,640 that will give you mostly information 37 00:01:30,590 --> 00:01:28,140 about the thermal emission of the planet 38 00:01:32,450 --> 00:01:30,600 itself and but you don't get to see the 39 00:01:33,859 --> 00:01:32,460 Eclipse if the planet's orbit is edge-on 40 00:01:35,630 --> 00:01:33,869 and it's usually with the training 41 00:01:38,899 --> 00:01:35,640 protections so you see the decrement 42 00:01:40,340 --> 00:01:38,909 here you see the the the the portion of 43 00:01:42,649 --> 00:01:40,350 the planets emission that's not being 44 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:42,659 seen relative to the Sun and so this is 45 00:01:45,679 --> 00:01:44,130 kind of an example of what a phase curve 46 00:01:47,179 --> 00:01:45,689 looks like a curve where you get you 47 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:47,189 observe the planet in a photometric band 48 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:48,090 through a whole orbit 49 00:01:52,609 --> 00:01:50,090 so here the transit pairs in eclipse 50 00:01:54,770 --> 00:01:52,619 okay so I'm gonna talk about phase 51 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:54,780 photometry I really interesting phase 52 00:01:59,570 --> 00:01:57,090 curves here are three space telescopes 53 00:02:00,800 --> 00:01:59,580 that have done great work in looking at 54 00:02:01,249 --> 00:02:00,810 phase curves and then eclipses in 55 00:02:04,340 --> 00:02:01,259 general 56 00:02:07,130 --> 00:02:04,350 Kepler no this wasn't catalyst primary 57 00:02:09,410 --> 00:02:07,140 mission but you can you can use this two 58 00:02:12,350 --> 00:02:09,420 phase curves and that was invisible and 59 00:02:13,429 --> 00:02:12,360 then Hubble's Wide Field Camera 3 looked 60 00:02:14,500 --> 00:02:13,439 a little bit redder in the near infrared 61 00:02:16,030 --> 00:02:14,510 and but I 62 00:02:17,890 --> 00:02:16,040 going to talk about Spitzer bans which 63 00:02:20,979 --> 00:02:17,900 are in a little bit redder than that 64 00:02:22,210 --> 00:02:20,989 primarily because well these exoplanets 65 00:02:24,130 --> 00:02:22,220 their own thermal emissions a little bit 66 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:24,140 cooler than their host stars so you're 67 00:02:28,690 --> 00:02:25,370 gonna move a little bit towards the 68 00:02:31,509 --> 00:02:28,700 redder including your infrared so let's 69 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:31,519 talk first about eclipses why because 70 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:33,290 well there's more of them it's easier to 71 00:02:39,220 --> 00:02:35,930 look for at a planet during just the 72 00:02:41,020 --> 00:02:39,230 Eclipse then for the whole orbit so I'll 73 00:02:44,410 --> 00:02:41,030 be very brief about this these are two 74 00:02:45,460 --> 00:02:44,420 plots from my recent paper I'd like to 75 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:45,470 focus on the right one but to give 76 00:02:49,630 --> 00:02:47,450 context this is a this is a scatter plot 77 00:02:51,490 --> 00:02:49,640 of the Eclipse Tepes right that 78 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:51,500 represents the dayside thermal emission 79 00:02:55,390 --> 00:02:53,690 of the planet relative to its thermal 80 00:02:57,550 --> 00:02:55,400 expectation so if the planet were 81 00:02:59,500 --> 00:02:57,560 radiating purely thermally at its 82 00:03:01,809 --> 00:02:59,510 equilibrium temperature that would be 83 00:03:04,059 --> 00:03:01,819 one here this dotted line and so 84 00:03:05,890 --> 00:03:04,069 anything above this is super thermal and 85 00:03:07,300 --> 00:03:05,900 so I'm gonna focus on the redder points 86 00:03:11,050 --> 00:03:07,310 here which just represent the Spitzer 87 00:03:12,970 --> 00:03:11,060 Iraq or infrared camera bands so zooming 88 00:03:14,770 --> 00:03:12,980 in and making a distribute showing a 89 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:14,780 distribution of those fluxes relative to 90 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:16,730 thermal we see we have some interesting 91 00:03:20,559 --> 00:03:18,530 distribution and so in the paper ice I 92 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:20,569 sort of quantify that this approach is 93 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:21,530 something called the log normal 94 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:23,690 distribution if you remember from 95 00:03:28,210 --> 00:03:26,090 statistics if you have an observable or 96 00:03:31,210 --> 00:03:28,220 measurable quantity that is composed of 97 00:03:33,250 --> 00:03:31,220 many independent processes that are all 98 00:03:35,110 --> 00:03:33,260 combining to create this measurement 99 00:03:36,819 --> 00:03:35,120 then then in the limit of many 100 00:03:38,860 --> 00:03:36,829 independent processes you expect that 101 00:03:40,930 --> 00:03:38,870 some to approach a Gaussian distribution 102 00:03:42,939 --> 00:03:40,940 with some mean and standard deviation so 103 00:03:44,439 --> 00:03:42,949 in log space or correspondingly if you 104 00:03:46,509 --> 00:03:44,449 have that be a product of many 105 00:03:48,670 --> 00:03:46,519 independent processes you would expect 106 00:03:50,890 --> 00:03:48,680 to see a log normal distribution so why 107 00:03:53,559 --> 00:03:50,900 did I bring this up well it's suggesting 108 00:03:55,839 --> 00:03:53,569 that this distribution looking at all 109 00:03:57,670 --> 00:03:55,849 these eclipses as a whole is suggesting 110 00:03:59,949 --> 00:03:57,680 that there are many physical processes 111 00:04:01,539 --> 00:03:59,959 or maybe even instrumental processes 112 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:01,549 that are creating this distribution so 113 00:04:05,050 --> 00:04:02,810 that seems like there's a lot going on 114 00:04:09,069 --> 00:04:05,060 here just looking at all the Eclipse 115 00:04:11,229 --> 00:04:09,079 steps as a whole and so if you have this 116 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:11,239 observational data what can you what can 117 00:04:14,890 --> 00:04:12,530 you throw at it like what's a good 118 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:14,900 physical physically motivated way to 119 00:04:19,539 --> 00:04:17,570 reproduce these observations well the 120 00:04:21,580 --> 00:04:19,549 most sophisticated way is to use a 3d 121 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:21,590 climate model so these were originally 122 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:23,090 developed for Earth climate models and 123 00:04:26,770 --> 00:04:24,770 I'm sure several of you that many of you 124 00:04:28,060 --> 00:04:26,780 have worked with these or seen these and 125 00:04:29,740 --> 00:04:28,070 so I'll be 126 00:04:32,140 --> 00:04:29,750 quickly just you know there are 3d 127 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:32,150 treatment of the atmospheric physics and 128 00:04:35,500 --> 00:04:34,130 they also couple to the surface so if 129 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:35,510 you have oceans or if you have carbon 130 00:04:39,910 --> 00:04:37,610 cycle all those sorts of things you can 131 00:04:41,140 --> 00:04:39,920 take care of that and most interesting 132 00:04:42,430 --> 00:04:41,150 to me is that you can capture the 133 00:04:44,230 --> 00:04:42,440 dynamics and the formation of things 134 00:04:46,540 --> 00:04:44,240 like clouds and the molecular absorption 135 00:04:47,950 --> 00:04:46,550 of species in the atmosphere so it's 136 00:04:50,860 --> 00:04:47,960 really useful and this is a really 137 00:04:52,470 --> 00:04:50,870 physically grounded approach and and 138 00:04:55,510 --> 00:04:52,480 very sophisticated to try to you know 139 00:04:56,860 --> 00:04:55,520 model now exoplanet atmosphere so a lot 140 00:05:00,670 --> 00:04:56,870 of work has been done to movies the 141 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:00,680 exoplanets and so one of the things that 142 00:05:03,850 --> 00:05:02,570 gives us away from a takes us away from 143 00:05:04,990 --> 00:05:03,860 the earth like regime is particularly 144 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:05,000 the orbital geometries of these 145 00:05:09,460 --> 00:05:07,730 exoplanets different stellar types how 146 00:05:10,450 --> 00:05:09,470 big and how you know in mass and radius 147 00:05:11,950 --> 00:05:10,460 of the planet that could change your 148 00:05:13,990 --> 00:05:11,960 surface gravity and also atmospheric 149 00:05:15,010 --> 00:05:14,000 composition and a lot of these planets 150 00:05:19,180 --> 00:05:15,020 that I'm going to talk about coming out 151 00:05:21,130 --> 00:05:19,190 data on our hot Jupiters so here I'm 152 00:05:24,250 --> 00:05:21,140 going to show some predictions from a 153 00:05:26,980 --> 00:05:24,260 very influential model from showman at 154 00:05:28,690 --> 00:05:26,990 all in 2009 so they used one of these 155 00:05:29,170 --> 00:05:28,700 three models to try to model a very 156 00:05:30,790 --> 00:05:29,180 well-studied 157 00:05:33,490 --> 00:05:30,800 hot Jupiter called to a nine four five 158 00:05:35,140 --> 00:05:33,500 eight and so here you're seeing the 159 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:35,150 model curves and the Spitzer infrared 160 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:37,130 bands and I'm just highlighting here in 161 00:05:41,050 --> 00:05:39,770 the red as the four point five model 162 00:05:44,410 --> 00:05:41,060 light curve and you see that at that 163 00:05:45,970 --> 00:05:44,420 time we weren't able to reproduce the 164 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:45,980 Eclipse deaths so we have a 165 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:48,290 sophisticated technique but we're 166 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:49,850 missing something when we're trying to 167 00:05:54,070 --> 00:05:51,410 compare it to these data points right 168 00:05:56,650 --> 00:05:54,080 and so five years later paper buys 169 00:05:58,630 --> 00:05:56,660 element all take a full phase light 170 00:06:00,040 --> 00:05:58,640 curve in 4.5 so now you have data over 171 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:00,050 the whole orbit in this four point five 172 00:06:04,870 --> 00:06:03,050 band and still and and here it's 173 00:06:07,390 --> 00:06:04,880 highlighting even more how what how the 174 00:06:10,540 --> 00:06:07,400 models disagree with the data and so 175 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:10,550 we're this is pointing to that while you 176 00:06:13,930 --> 00:06:12,080 can have all the physics in there and 177 00:06:17,010 --> 00:06:13,940 it's all well-motivated 178 00:06:19,990 --> 00:06:17,020 at this point it's not clear that the 179 00:06:22,180 --> 00:06:20,000 that we can strain those physical 180 00:06:24,250 --> 00:06:22,190 properties using the data that we have 181 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:24,260 available and so here you can see that 182 00:06:28,660 --> 00:06:26,450 the the minimum here is over predicted 183 00:06:30,550 --> 00:06:28,670 and so what we were thinking is well 184 00:06:31,930 --> 00:06:30,560 we'd want to at least fit the broad 185 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:31,940 properties of these light curves right 186 00:06:36,100 --> 00:06:34,310 so you want to fit say the amplitude of 187 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:36,110 the light curve you want to fit you know 188 00:06:39,940 --> 00:06:37,490 so that would be also the Eclipse step 189 00:06:41,010 --> 00:06:39,950 so you'd also want to fit where this 190 00:06:43,170 --> 00:06:41,020 minimum occurs 191 00:06:44,670 --> 00:06:43,180 if you remember during transit you've 192 00:06:46,439 --> 00:06:44,680 got the new phase of the planet the 193 00:06:47,939 --> 00:06:46,449 Nightside and so you expect maybe that 194 00:06:49,710 --> 00:06:47,949 the minimum temperature or the minimum 195 00:06:52,020 --> 00:06:49,720 flux would be during the nights the the 196 00:06:53,309 --> 00:06:52,030 new phase which is during transit but if 197 00:06:54,450 --> 00:06:53,319 you see the minimum that's offset a 198 00:06:55,770 --> 00:06:54,460 little bit that could tell you something 199 00:06:56,790 --> 00:06:55,780 about the circulation the atmosphere 200 00:06:58,740 --> 00:06:56,800 because that's telling you something as 201 00:07:01,260 --> 00:06:58,750 you know like a wind is moving the the 202 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:01,270 cold spot away from that expectation so 203 00:07:05,369 --> 00:07:03,370 that's one metric that you can fit so 204 00:07:06,689 --> 00:07:05,379 these are all empirical properties of 205 00:07:08,850 --> 00:07:06,699 the light curve that you would like to 206 00:07:12,089 --> 00:07:08,860 fit to first order before you start 207 00:07:13,589 --> 00:07:12,099 moving on and and it's difficult it's 208 00:07:15,839 --> 00:07:13,599 compounded by the fact that this is an 209 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:15,849 example of what the spits are like our 210 00:07:20,879 --> 00:07:18,250 spits of photometry starts out as so 211 00:07:23,219 --> 00:07:20,889 this is the raw photometry and so as 212 00:07:26,399 --> 00:07:23,229 young a tall paper from 2017 they 213 00:07:28,260 --> 00:07:26,409 outline a really good outline of how how 214 00:07:29,850 --> 00:07:28,270 much work has gone into reduce spits or 215 00:07:31,770 --> 00:07:29,860 light curve data to get something that 216 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:31,780 you can use right and even though 217 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:34,330 there's been a lot of work to to reduce 218 00:07:39,689 --> 00:07:36,250 the data and try to get at the real 219 00:07:41,100 --> 00:07:39,699 physical signal there is in many of 220 00:07:42,270 --> 00:07:41,110 these works a lot of these experts are 221 00:07:44,730 --> 00:07:42,280 pointing out that there could still be 222 00:07:46,860 --> 00:07:44,740 very very well be uncharacterized noise 223 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:46,870 sources and in the in the data and so 224 00:07:51,089 --> 00:07:48,610 that's also hindering us that could be 225 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:51,099 one of or several of the physical 226 00:07:55,290 --> 00:07:52,330 processes that are giving us that 227 00:08:00,689 --> 00:07:55,300 distribution of eclipsed depths so our 228 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:00,699 approach so our approach is to start 229 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:04,690 very simply so we we use the most simple 230 00:08:08,969 --> 00:08:07,210 physical model and so as a grad student 231 00:08:11,430 --> 00:08:08,979 this is nice for me because I can code 232 00:08:14,309 --> 00:08:11,440 up a model that takes four parameters so 233 00:08:15,809 --> 00:08:14,319 we take a planet that rotates we have a 234 00:08:18,089 --> 00:08:15,819 planet that heats up and cools down with 235 00:08:19,740 --> 00:08:18,099 some characteristic time scale we have a 236 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:19,750 planet that stays some minimum 237 00:08:23,550 --> 00:08:21,250 temperature and that can encompass 238 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:23,560 anything that's not the stellar heating 239 00:08:27,570 --> 00:08:25,930 and we have an albedo so the planet has 240 00:08:30,779 --> 00:08:27,580 some reflectivity again this is very 241 00:08:32,130 --> 00:08:30,789 very basic and we also again know the 242 00:08:33,690 --> 00:08:32,140 orbital geometry of some of these 243 00:08:35,639 --> 00:08:33,700 systems that we like to model the 244 00:08:37,350 --> 00:08:35,649 stellar and the mass and the radius and 245 00:08:40,500 --> 00:08:37,360 the temperature of the star and then the 246 00:08:41,790 --> 00:08:40,510 internal band passes like Spitzer and so 247 00:08:43,409 --> 00:08:41,800 we can model a generated temperature map 248 00:08:44,670 --> 00:08:43,419 we can involve that with how you're 249 00:08:46,500 --> 00:08:44,680 viewing it to get through light curves 250 00:08:48,660 --> 00:08:46,510 and then you can you can try to optimize 251 00:08:52,530 --> 00:08:48,670 to find the best fit parameter is a be 252 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:52,540 score and so here's a non animated 253 00:08:54,810 --> 00:08:53,770 version of what the kind of the data 254 00:08:56,130 --> 00:08:54,820 price we get out so this is 255 00:08:59,250 --> 00:08:56,140 designing the orbit of another well have 256 00:09:00,570 --> 00:08:59,260 studied hot Jupiter 189 733 and here 257 00:09:02,340 --> 00:09:00,580 just kind of showing you where we have 258 00:09:03,780 --> 00:09:02,350 orbit data here's the data and these 259 00:09:05,790 --> 00:09:03,790 black dots and here's how we're fitting 260 00:09:09,150 --> 00:09:05,800 the data so we can do multiple fits and 261 00:09:10,830 --> 00:09:09,160 different wavelengths and we do this for 262 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:10,840 a lot of planets in fact there are 13 263 00:09:13,410 --> 00:09:12,130 planets that we looked at some of them 264 00:09:14,700 --> 00:09:13,420 are eccentric and I'll get to why we 265 00:09:17,130 --> 00:09:14,710 like eccentric plants or I like these 266 00:09:18,780 --> 00:09:17,140 centered planets and when we compare 267 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:18,790 these models at least at the first-order 268 00:09:23,190 --> 00:09:20,800 level we're doing a pretty good job and 269 00:09:25,470 --> 00:09:23,200 so what this is suggesting is that there 270 00:09:26,940 --> 00:09:25,480 is a need at this point that even though 271 00:09:28,980 --> 00:09:26,950 Spitzer has done an amazing amount of 272 00:09:30,780 --> 00:09:28,990 work it wasn't designed to do exoplanet 273 00:09:33,030 --> 00:09:30,790 asks for a characterization so we need 274 00:09:34,170 --> 00:09:33,040 to be aware of how how we approach the 275 00:09:36,930 --> 00:09:34,180 data especially when we're moving 276 00:09:38,610 --> 00:09:36,940 forward to James Webb one thing I wanted 277 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:38,620 to point out is that circular orbits and 278 00:09:42,150 --> 00:09:39,970 this is motivating I like eccentric 279 00:09:43,620 --> 00:09:42,160 orbits they can have this even with the 280 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:43,630 for printer model you expect there's 281 00:09:47,340 --> 00:09:45,730 some difficulties and one thing is that 282 00:09:50,010 --> 00:09:47,350 we have a time scale degeneracy so I 283 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:50,020 pointed out this phase offset and so 284 00:09:53,790 --> 00:09:51,490 this phase offset you can quantify how 285 00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:53,800 displace that is and that gives that's 286 00:09:59,490 --> 00:09:56,560 represented in our model by a a rotation 287 00:10:01,290 --> 00:09:59,500 period that captures any deviation from 288 00:10:02,850 --> 00:10:01,300 synchronicity or tidal walking where the 289 00:10:04,770 --> 00:10:02,860 planet it has one day sight in one night 290 00:10:07,050 --> 00:10:04,780 side so if you wiggle that away from 291 00:10:09,210 --> 00:10:07,060 that that limit then you can get 292 00:10:10,890 --> 00:10:09,220 effectively wins or capture that wins 293 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:10,900 and so this is kind of just a heat map 294 00:10:14,130 --> 00:10:12,130 with the likelihoods and you can see 295 00:10:16,260 --> 00:10:14,140 that there's a large energy between how 296 00:10:18,870 --> 00:10:16,270 much you wiggle that rotation period and 297 00:10:19,950 --> 00:10:18,880 what your your heating time scale is so 298 00:10:22,260 --> 00:10:19,960 those can kind of play off each other 299 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:22,270 and that's that's partially due to the 300 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:23,530 cement symmetry of the orbit you're 301 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:25,570 always getting the same installation or 302 00:10:29,610 --> 00:10:27,730 a stellar heating but eccentric planets 303 00:10:31,980 --> 00:10:29,620 could break the degeneracy so here I'm 304 00:10:34,340 --> 00:10:31,990 showing a hat p2b which is an eccentric 305 00:10:36,540 --> 00:10:34,350 planet at eccentricity 0.5 interested 306 00:10:38,670 --> 00:10:36,550 and these are really really interesting 307 00:10:40,410 --> 00:10:38,680 because of the time variable heating 308 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:40,420 from its host star so you can see here 309 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:42,970 at it's almost I think it's like a 310 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:46,450 factor of 3 to 5 difference this I'll 311 00:10:49,290 --> 00:10:48,130 just kind of put this as a video I had a 312 00:10:49,740 --> 00:10:49,300 video too showing like it's kind of 313 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:49,750 thing it 314 00:10:53,790 --> 00:10:51,130 we're goals around you can you can look 315 00:10:57,540 --> 00:10:53,800 it up oh if you want I can save you a 316 00:10:58,890 --> 00:10:57,550 link but in summary so this is the first 317 00:11:00,450 --> 00:10:58,900 part of my talk is that saying that you 318 00:11:01,620 --> 00:11:00,460 know photometry can capture these 319 00:11:03,270 --> 00:11:01,630 properties and tell us a lot about the 320 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:03,280 atmosphere but we really need to be 321 00:11:07,410 --> 00:11:05,050 careful about how we characterize our 322 00:11:08,010 --> 00:11:07,420 intrumental response and so for the next 323 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:08,020 couple 324 00:11:11,010 --> 00:11:09,370 I want to talk about another project 325 00:11:12,780 --> 00:11:11,020 that's a little more theoretical and I 326 00:11:14,910 --> 00:11:12,790 thought it'd be a little more related to 327 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:14,920 a lot of the astrobiology at their side 328 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:15,850 what's going on here 329 00:11:20,579 --> 00:11:18,310 if we take this photometric approach 330 00:11:22,829 --> 00:11:20,589 could we could we learn something about 331 00:11:23,970 --> 00:11:22,839 rotation on eccentric ocean planets so 332 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:23,980 I'm going to start with a very basic 333 00:11:30,889 --> 00:11:26,890 ocean planet model an earth-like planet 334 00:11:34,889 --> 00:11:30,899 on an orbit that is eccentric 335 00:11:38,790 --> 00:11:34,899 that's eccentric but you can you can fix 336 00:11:40,650 --> 00:11:38,800 the total orbit average stellar heating 337 00:11:42,510 --> 00:11:40,660 to match that of Earth and that's what's 338 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:42,520 characterized by this mean flux 339 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:44,170 approximation so all this is saying is 340 00:11:48,210 --> 00:11:45,970 that when you change the eccentricity 341 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:48,220 here's how you scale the orbit such that 342 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:51,370 you preserve this value of F over F flux 343 00:11:55,079 --> 00:11:53,050 over the earth blocks so just fix that 344 00:11:56,340 --> 00:11:55,089 to one tells you how to scale your orbit 345 00:11:58,350 --> 00:11:56,350 so now we know how our orbit should be 346 00:12:00,930 --> 00:11:58,360 structured to preserve that amount of 347 00:12:03,570 --> 00:12:00,940 heating and then we consider two 348 00:12:05,250 --> 00:12:03,580 rotation regimes so one will be an 349 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:05,260 earthlike rotation and one would be 350 00:12:09,449 --> 00:12:07,330 something that extends the idea of tidal 351 00:12:11,070 --> 00:12:09,459 locking to an eccentric case using the 352 00:12:13,319 --> 00:12:11,080 same tidal arguments tidal heating 353 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:13,329 arguments for eccentric planets there's 354 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:14,770 a pseudo synchronous rate that remains 355 00:12:18,269 --> 00:12:16,450 pretty slow of order the orbital period 356 00:12:20,970 --> 00:12:18,279 until very high eccentricities so we're 357 00:12:23,519 --> 00:12:20,980 gonna call this the slow case and so we 358 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:23,529 can model these planets we can we can 359 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:26,529 look at the distribution of the ice and 360 00:12:30,210 --> 00:12:28,450 the ice cover and the open ocean cover 361 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:30,220 and see what the surface temperatures 362 00:12:33,090 --> 00:12:31,510 are and so I'm just kind of showing you 363 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:33,100 that you know you've probably seen some 364 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:36,130 of these characteristic patterns of the 365 00:12:39,870 --> 00:12:37,570 eyeball where you see like a very 366 00:12:43,650 --> 00:12:39,880 concentrated melting point and then a 367 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:43,660 more longitudinally symmetric point and 368 00:12:47,329 --> 00:12:45,490 so all us you know I'm also just crying 369 00:12:49,650 --> 00:12:47,339 pointing out to say that we did this and 370 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:49,660 pressure and temperature some things you 371 00:12:52,530 --> 00:12:51,010 can also imagine in the atmosphere and 372 00:12:55,290 --> 00:12:52,540 so what you might expect is that for the 373 00:12:57,269 --> 00:12:55,300 slow rotating planets right around the 374 00:12:59,010 --> 00:12:57,279 point of closest approach periastron 375 00:13:01,470 --> 00:12:59,020 where there's the most heating remember 376 00:13:03,690 --> 00:13:01,480 these are eccentric planets that you 377 00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:03,700 would expect because the the planets are 378 00:13:07,769 --> 00:13:05,529 more slowly rotating they'll they'll 379 00:13:09,300 --> 00:13:07,779 have more time to evaporate and give a 380 00:13:11,370 --> 00:13:09,310 greater column density of water in the 381 00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:11,380 atmosphere so in a very very basic 382 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:13,120 approach but we want to see whether this 383 00:13:16,949 --> 00:13:15,010 this could give a signature that could 384 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:16,959 tell you in photometry whether you have 385 00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:19,690 a slow rotator or a fast rotator and so 386 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:21,510 what we did was we took James Webb they 387 00:13:26,990 --> 00:13:24,810 and we simulated some light curves so 388 00:13:29,330 --> 00:13:27,000 these are all in the mid-infrared from 389 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:29,340 5.6 micron to 25 and a half micron and 390 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:30,570 so you're just seeing kind of the 391 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:32,010 differences here so one of these and the 392 00:13:36,020 --> 00:13:34,050 diamond endpoints is the slow rotator 393 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:36,030 and the plus signs are for Earth and so 394 00:13:38,690 --> 00:13:37,410 I'm just pointing out here that in these 395 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:38,700 bands you can see that there's a 396 00:13:41,510 --> 00:13:39,810 characteristic difference and 397 00:13:44,780 --> 00:13:41,520 interestingly there might be something 398 00:13:45,860 --> 00:13:44,790 you know so even in the broadband you 399 00:13:47,750 --> 00:13:45,870 know there's a there's a absorption 400 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:47,760 feature of water in this second band 401 00:13:52,700 --> 00:13:51,330 here at 770 or 7.7 microns so I was 402 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:52,710 thinking what if we took a color so we 403 00:13:57,110 --> 00:13:54,530 took the ratio of two light curves and 404 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:57,120 so what I'm trying to point out here is 405 00:13:59,720 --> 00:13:58,530 that if you take if you're able to 406 00:14:02,090 --> 00:13:59,730 observe in two bands and get kind of a 407 00:14:03,050 --> 00:14:02,100 color a light curve color band then you 408 00:14:04,940 --> 00:14:03,060 could see a pretty interesting 409 00:14:06,230 --> 00:14:04,950 difference potentially depending on 410 00:14:07,250 --> 00:14:06,240 where you observe even if you're not 411 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:07,260 even able to observe the whole light 412 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:09,510 curve if you're this is one particular 413 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:11,370 tube viewing geometry but if you looked 414 00:14:14,810 --> 00:14:13,410 right at eclipsed you may be able to see 415 00:14:17,450 --> 00:14:14,820 a pretty big difference in that color 416 00:14:18,950 --> 00:14:17,460 metric may be able to tell you whether 417 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:18,960 you're looking at a slow rotating planet 418 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:21,330 or a fast rotating planet with that I 419 00:14:40,190 --> 00:14:32,370 think I will take questions thank you do 420 00:14:49,940 --> 00:14:40,200 you have any questions Arthur when you 421 00:15:13,250 --> 00:14:49,950 showed AC 209 right so you said you 422 00:15:15,950 --> 00:15:13,260 couldn't fit into the data right so 423 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:15,960 that's what I'm so yes so the idea is 424 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:17,490 that even with even with a full phase 425 00:15:21,110 --> 00:15:19,110 curve right we're not be able finsihed 426 00:15:22,850 --> 00:15:21,120 and and again if you if in this paper 427 00:15:24,740 --> 00:15:22,860 I'm selling and the author's point out 428 00:15:26,780 --> 00:15:24,750 that there that they think that it's due 429 00:15:28,070 --> 00:15:26,790 to eight as you point out a disagreement 430 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:28,080 in the carbon chemistry that there may 431 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:29,610 be some disequilibrium chemistry and the 432 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:31,410 methane on the day and night side that 433 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:33,970 you're not capturing work we're not 434 00:15:45,389 --> 00:15:44,050 and accurately with the model sorry yeah 435 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:45,399 this might have been some weird data 436 00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:48,730 them from not tonight but have you 437 00:15:53,249 --> 00:15:51,040 looked at any other hot Jupiters which 438 00:15:58,850 --> 00:15:53,259 actually have has like a thermal 439 00:16:01,290 --> 00:15:58,860 inversion inhibition feature right so so 440 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:01,300 so we have looked at planets that where 441 00:16:05,610 --> 00:16:03,610 they have been modeled using inversion I 442 00:16:08,009 --> 00:16:05,620 would say that our model itself does not 443 00:16:09,509 --> 00:16:08,019 at all capture it does not apply a 444 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:09,519 thermal inversion model to try to 445 00:16:16,439 --> 00:16:14,170 capture the photometry even I would say 446 00:16:18,059 --> 00:16:16,449 that it even with inversions in the 447 00:16:19,889 --> 00:16:18,069 atmosphere there still remains a 448 00:16:22,769 --> 00:16:19,899 difficulty in capturing that inversion 449 00:16:25,069 --> 00:16:22,779 there's still a difficulty to capture 450 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:25,079 the whole shape of the light curves even 451 00:16:31,499 --> 00:16:29,170 recently so it may not it may not it may 452 00:16:32,970 --> 00:16:31,509 be very well I it seems very clear that 453 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:32,980 there are inversion layers and planets 454 00:16:35,970 --> 00:16:34,810 but whether you can take that and 455 00:16:37,619 --> 00:16:35,980 constrain the properties of that 456 00:16:39,119 --> 00:16:37,629 inversion within the context of the 457 00:16:40,619 --> 00:16:39,129 whole atmosphere in order to get the 458 00:16:47,460 --> 00:16:40,629 full picture with the light curve is 459 00:16:53,140 --> 00:16:47,470 another question so any other questions